Chain and Sprocket
- Salaren
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Chain and Sprocket
Hello again
Many questions from a new Twin owner but you guys are great to help and I really appreciate your assistance.
I discovered that the back sprocket are worn and I also see that when I try to adjust the slack of the chain it is not even when turning the backwheel. I guess the chain has been partly stretched before I purchased the 750 Ltd twin and are now looking for a complete new chain and sprocket kit. The front sprocket has 16 teeth and the backsprocket has 38 and I think it is an o-ring chain that is mounted now.
When it comes to selecting the chain I am not sure if I should go for a o-ring type, X-ring or non o-ring chain.
Any here that has any idea of what kind of chain to select or even better, a link to a webshop that can provide what I am looking for..?
non O Ring, O Ring and X Ringnon O Ring, O Ring and X Ringnon O Ring, O Ring and X Ring
Many questions from a new Twin owner but you guys are great to help and I really appreciate your assistance.
I discovered that the back sprocket are worn and I also see that when I try to adjust the slack of the chain it is not even when turning the backwheel. I guess the chain has been partly stretched before I purchased the 750 Ltd twin and are now looking for a complete new chain and sprocket kit. The front sprocket has 16 teeth and the backsprocket has 38 and I think it is an o-ring chain that is mounted now.
When it comes to selecting the chain I am not sure if I should go for a o-ring type, X-ring or non o-ring chain.
Any here that has any idea of what kind of chain to select or even better, a link to a webshop that can provide what I am looking for..?
non O Ring, O Ring and X Ringnon O Ring, O Ring and X Ringnon O Ring, O Ring and X Ring
Salaren
Happy owner of Kawasaki Twins, two 400R2 and one of big brother the 750LTD. What more can you ask for..?
Happy owner of Kawasaki Twins, two 400R2 and one of big brother the 750LTD. What more can you ask for..?
- Twinfreak
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Hallo Salaren,
the chain a normal o-ring chain will do it easy you have only 50hp. ist not a Rice Rocket with a 150hp Engine.
Eric
the chain a normal o-ring chain will do it easy you have only 50hp. ist not a Rice Rocket with a 150hp Engine.
Eric
- Salaren
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Hi. I was searching Ebay and found this kit http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chain-set-Kawas ... uC&vxp=mtr. and this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ognibene-530-Pi ... 1711007584
Is this good stuff or is it overkill..?
Is this good stuff or is it overkill..?
Zuletzt geändert von Salaren am Di 28. Jun 2016, 20:42, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
Salaren
Happy owner of Kawasaki Twins, two 400R2 and one of big brother the 750LTD. What more can you ask for..?
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Hi Salaren,
i think the did -chain is okay.
The ognibene -chain, i mis an exactly describtion of this set in the offer. And quality, i don´t know.
cheers
Gerd
i think the did -chain is okay.
The ognibene -chain, i mis an exactly describtion of this set in the offer. And quality, i don´t know.
cheers
Gerd
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
i would take the DID set.
by the way ist it cheaper for you to buy in GB or in EU ? I know that Norway is EFTA
Eric
by the way ist it cheaper for you to buy in GB or in EU ? I know that Norway is EFTA
Eric
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Hi Salaren,
I am just back from my holidays in Norway and at the final stage the chain at Marias LTD broke after just 10.000 km!
Go for a chain with good quality as DID offers them, O-Ring is sufficient.
You may like to have slightly longer transmission ratio with 17:38. I love that.
17 teeth front sprocket of a Yamaha SR500 (famous single) will fit plug 'n' play.
Stock chain length with 106 links/increments will cope with that as well.
Skol, Michael
I am just back from my holidays in Norway and at the final stage the chain at Marias LTD broke after just 10.000 km!
Go for a chain with good quality as DID offers them, O-Ring is sufficient.
You may like to have slightly longer transmission ratio with 17:38. I love that.
17 teeth front sprocket of a Yamaha SR500 (famous single) will fit plug 'n' play.
Stock chain length with 106 links/increments will cope with that as well.
Skol, Michael
Zuletzt geändert von Michael am Di 5. Jul 2016, 16:51, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
Denkt dran:
Die Drehrichtung des Motors an der Zündungsseite ist gegen(!) den Uhrzeigersinn.
Die Steuerkette nur bei montiertem Ventildeckel spannen, sonst droht ein kapitaler Motorschaden!
Allzeit Gute Fahrt!
Die Drehrichtung des Motors an der Zündungsseite ist gegen(!) den Uhrzeigersinn.
Die Steuerkette nur bei montiertem Ventildeckel spannen, sonst droht ein kapitaler Motorschaden!
Allzeit Gute Fahrt!
- Salaren
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Thanks Michael ans sorry for late replyMichael hat geschrieben: Hi Salaren,
I am just back from my holidays in Norway and at the final stage the chain at Marias LTD broke after just 10.000 km!
Go for a chain with good quality as DID offers them, O-Ring is sufficient.
You may like to have slightly longer transmission ratio with 17:38. I love that.
17 teeth front sprocket of a Yamaha SR500 (famous single) will fit plug 'n' play.
Stock chain length with 106 links/increments will cope with that as well.
Skol, Michael
Good to hear you guys had a good trip to Norway and hope the breakdown did not ruin to much of the trip
Yes, I have still not replaced the sprocket and chain and at this time I am happy for that too as I have been driving the bike a bit and also like you say discover that the ratio with 16/38 sprockets make the bike a bit high on the RPM during normal driving. As well as there is plenty torque on the lower RPM to keep the bike running in the 5th shift. So I was also thinking about changing the original setup from 16/38 to 17/38 but was not sure about if there is space enought for a 17. But now when I read your reply I understand this is fully possible. So I will look into it again and order a new set sprockets and chain in the fall and have this as a little winterproject.
Thanks a lot for your assistance
By the way, when you look at the link, can you by looking at the picture see that this is the correct sprocket..? If it is I will ask for a 17 instead. http://mc-deler.com/search.asp?S=MCD-047982
Zuletzt geändert von Salaren am Di 16. Aug 2016, 07:47, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
Salaren
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Hi Salaren,
after Maria's experience I would go for a good quality drive chain only, not for the cheapest one ;-)
The shown front sprocket looks familiar and the VN800 is in the list as well.
Attached the spec of "our" front sprocket and the model list of bikes that uses the same inner indenting. Best regards,
Michael
after Maria's experience I would go for a good quality drive chain only, not for the cheapest one ;-)
The shown front sprocket looks familiar and the VN800 is in the list as well.
Attached the spec of "our" front sprocket and the model list of bikes that uses the same inner indenting. Best regards,
Michael
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Zuletzt geändert von Michael am Di 16. Aug 2016, 09:46, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.
Denkt dran:
Die Drehrichtung des Motors an der Zündungsseite ist gegen(!) den Uhrzeigersinn.
Die Steuerkette nur bei montiertem Ventildeckel spannen, sonst droht ein kapitaler Motorschaden!
Allzeit Gute Fahrt!
Die Drehrichtung des Motors an der Zündungsseite ist gegen(!) den Uhrzeigersinn.
Die Steuerkette nur bei montiertem Ventildeckel spannen, sonst droht ein kapitaler Motorschaden!
Allzeit Gute Fahrt!
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Today, after spending the morning changing sprockets and chain I had a drive with the new setup. As already recommended I ordered a 17 teeth instead of the original 16 and I discover the RPM at 80 Kmh is about 225-250RPM lower than before. To be honest I should wish it would be possible to have an even larger front sprocket but there is no physical space due to the chain guard. The only option I think could be possible is to change the weel sprocket from 38 to 36 teeth. Have anyone here tried that combo with 17/36..?
However, it gave a better drive with the new setup and I am glad I did it.
Thanks for all your help folks
However, it gave a better drive with the new setup and I am glad I did it.
Thanks for all your help folks
Salaren
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RE: Chain and Sprocket
Hi Salaren,
my uncle Hubertus is using that transmission ratio since many years.
He is very happy with that and had it fitted during our travel through Norway also.
The only thing is, there is no matching stock rear sprocket with 36 teeth available.
So it needs to be an individually made aluminium sprocket.
Over here it will cost approx 80,- to 100,- Euros. On the pic you can see two of them, one has 38 and the other has 36 teeth.
Even with 17/36 you can use the chain with 106 incriments.
Cheers, Michael
my uncle Hubertus is using that transmission ratio since many years.
He is very happy with that and had it fitted during our travel through Norway also.
The only thing is, there is no matching stock rear sprocket with 36 teeth available.
So it needs to be an individually made aluminium sprocket.
Over here it will cost approx 80,- to 100,- Euros. On the pic you can see two of them, one has 38 and the other has 36 teeth.
Even with 17/36 you can use the chain with 106 incriments.
Cheers, Michael
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Denkt dran:
Die Drehrichtung des Motors an der Zündungsseite ist gegen(!) den Uhrzeigersinn.
Die Steuerkette nur bei montiertem Ventildeckel spannen, sonst droht ein kapitaler Motorschaden!
Allzeit Gute Fahrt!
Die Drehrichtung des Motors an der Zündungsseite ist gegen(!) den Uhrzeigersinn.
Die Steuerkette nur bei montiertem Ventildeckel spannen, sonst droht ein kapitaler Motorschaden!
Allzeit Gute Fahrt!